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		<title>Talk:Budget allowance</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Bromac: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;After review, we have a consensus from the CHQ MSR leaders that specific LUBA numbers should not be posted to a public site. The numbers are confidential and vary from country to country. Content on the wiki needs to apply to a worldwide audience. Editing out the numbers now. [[User:Lindsayre|Lindsayre]] 22:08, 6 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;ve deleted the specific dollar figures from this article. I didn&#039;t delete the referenced spreadsheet because as far as I can tell it doesn&#039;t include any figures to compute the allocation. [[User:Lindsayre|Lindsayre]] 22:26, 6 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The discussion on this page is out-of-date.  The new CUBS program has effectively taken the Stake out of the picture in a &amp;quot;control&amp;quot; mode, and put us into a &amp;quot;disaster clean-up&amp;quot; mode.  We have to ask the wards to write us checks to move money from a unit with a surplus to a unit with a deficit (if we so desire).  We can&#039;t stop them from building up a huge surplus to fund some extravagant activity.  We have to trust that they will do the right thing, even though they have demonstrated time and time again that they will push the limits just as far as they can to do whatever they want.  My finance clerk has washed his hands of the ward budget issues - we have to sit by and wait for the problems to occur before we are expected to go in and fix them.  Over the past 15 years as the clerk as we have gone from MIS/FIS to MLS to CUBS, whoever is developing these computer systems keep trying to bypass the Priesthood line of authority and do things the ways that are most convenient for the computer.  It happens routinely on both the membership and financial sides of our duties.  Seems that the tail keeps wagging the dog.  It would have been nice if someone had asked for input from the troops on the ground instead of just dreaming up this pie in the sky system.  Having travelled and spoken with clerks outside the Wasatch Front, I understand that there are issues out in the hinterland that needed to be addressed (i.e., it was almost mandatory that one be an accountant to be a finance clerk under the old system), but the pendulum has swung way to far with this new system.  The Priesthood line of authority needs to be recognized and allowed to function in the church&#039;s computer system.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Bromac</name></author>
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